blackbaron
♡ 17 ( +1 | -1 ) Derren BrownDerren Brown..who cant play chess at all...plays against 9 of the top British players...grandmasters , international masters..etc...wins 4 , loses 3 ,draws 2. Amazing result..but how?
muppyman
♡ 23 ( +1 | -1 ) simple enoughHe is not playing them at all of course, he is simply manipulating them into playing against one another. An old trick, possibly originated by the Canadian mentalist Kreskin. not sure about that but it's been done before certainly.
furryfunbundle
♡ 35 ( +1 | -1 ) I think...I think Darren must be able to play ches to some level.
In the last televised presentation, he played 9 games. 8 were, as you say, pairing off one opponent against the other and replaying their moves back to them.
The odd, 9th game though - as I understood it - was "him" against his opponent (he did say he selected the weakest of the players to match up against) and he did win that game.
blackbaron
♡ 29 ( +1 | -1 ) Yes , a simple trick , paired off 8 of them into 4 sets of twoand a simple memeory feat to use their moves against eahc other, which guaranteed him an even score, but then he won the 9th game against grandmaster , and he plays at novice level..where was the trick there?
muppyman
♡ 14 ( +1 | -1 ) Grandmaster?I would be very surprised if the ninth player was a Grandmaster. Is there any verifiable evidence that he was? My understanding is that he was a reasonable player.
muppyman
♡ 35 ( +1 | -1 ) rated 2200I have just read the report and explanation of how it was done and it seems the ninth player was of 2200 strength, hardly a Grandmaster. There is a suggestion that Brown was actuall told somehow which moves to play against him, and I would hazard a guess that he would be far more prepared to play badly than a GM would.
icantwrite
♡ 30 ( +1 | -1 ) The last player....The way i've heard he does it is by looking for signs of as to were the player doesn't want him to go. The higher the rating of player the more he will look at all the possible options and has worked out were he doesn't want Derren to go. He's an expert at body language and has applied it to pull of this very impressive trick.
blackbaron
♡ 29 ( +1 | -1 ) Yes icantwrite..as usual u get it right..the 9th player was no plant or stooge, but was beaten by ( I THINK ) using suggestion techniques to make himplay the right moves for Derrnen. If you watch his show on Channel4 on Fridays you will see he is an expert at this..whish I could leanrn how to do it to my chess opponenets here !
icantwrite
♡ 13 ( +1 | -1 ) .I tried hypnosis once, but the pendulum didn't have much affect when swung in front of a computer screen :-(
blackbaron
♡ 3 ( +1 | -1 ) Aye man,,you need the eye contact..get a web cam then
icantwrite
♡ 8 ( +1 | -1 ) Sounds like a good plan!! Let the mayhem begin! haha www.picextreme.zu5.net
icantwrite
♡ 8 ( +1 | -1 ) didn't mean to include that page address. Please ignore!
icantwrite
♡ 53 ( +1 | -1 ) Clarificationby the way it was nothing lude, just a link to a game, pretty fun actually haha
Going back to the original topic... If Derren Brown can do such things would it improve your game if you were to study psycology and body language? Because there are lots of books that can teach you that kind of stuff. For example you go to make a move and then study the players reaction to the possibility of you making it. True it would only work in OTB chess, but it's an interesting prospect of study. Opinions on a postcard :-)
achillesheel
♡ 17 ( +1 | -1 ) As a lawyerWho tries cases to juries I would LOVE to learn more about this. Great for chess, even better for the checkbook!! What are some of the book icw??
icantwrite
♡ 26 ( +1 | -1 ) A good start is...'Peoplewatching: The Desmond Morris Guide to Body Language' it's a very good book and he recommends some other books too. I would have to dig out my copy though to name them. This should start you on your way though... icw, i like it. regards icw